Monday, February 2, 2009

Notes to manju - 1

Puje Chinggis claims the future is Christian. Buddhism told people they must suffer well and earn a better future life.
He said Mongolians, crushed by economic and social chaos, preferred the Christian acceptance of their inherent badness.


Via BBC

3 comments:

  1. Hmmm... the Christian message is also about suffering and earning a better future life, though unlike Eastern rligions (Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.) it suggests it is right after death and that even, if you're a sinner, Santa Claus... I mean God, will always pardon you if you repent.

    Cheap illusory salvation. And yes, maybe a practical approach to daily matters too. Not to mention they could even make Chingis Khan a saint if needed. :-D

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  2. The sins for which one repents were the ones defined by Church itself. Where does this fact fit into? Were there any secular sins(the wrong doings that are physically and financially harmful to others or society in general)?

    There are too many types of Hinduism so I don't know what can be characterized as sins. I believe there are no sins for god worshipers. God himself is full of vices and he is more like a corrupt government official. Probably, some sins could be equated with polluting aspects that one can overcome by doing some cleansing rituals.

    Then there are six vices that I believe are okay for common people but must be overcome by people who want to achieve Moksha(renouncer Sanyasi).

    I believe this should be the case with Buddhism too. The vices should be overcome by people who want to achieve Moksha (people who renounce worldly life and become monks). Therefore, non-monk Buddhists must be worried about Christianity more than Buddhism where innate badness doesn't apply.

    This makes me think Christianity forcefully offers Salvation to everyone but not Hinduism or Buddhism. Probably, one can also argue there is no moral based religion for common people under Hinduism or Buddhism.

    But I think Mongolia gives rather intriguing picture in this situation. It seems 50% of the male population were Buddhist monks until 1920. It probably has roots in inherent equality of Mongolian tribes (as we have seen in a Manchu empire's diktats in China abolishing untouchability). Here indeed Buddhism works like Christianity.

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  3. Here indeed Buddhism works like Christianity....

    By that I mean, the sins apply to big chunk of the population and it also gives a framework for common people. In other words because of sheer number of monks the strong dividing line between monk and non-monk worlds blurs. However, Christianity has diluted these sins by a way of confession.

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